On our 12th podcast, Maria and I talk in very personal and open terms about creativity, how it has shaped our relationship and our lives. Creativity is, to both of us, a kind of faith, it is our God.

We encourage one another and support each other and  understand each other, which is necessary, as the creative life is not easy or simple. Creativity brought us together and helps keep us together in so many ways.

A creative life is not for everybody. It is full of joy and rewards and we talk honestly on the podcast  about how creativity isn’t just about creating things, it is also about changing along with our culture and environment.

(If you prefer, you can listen to our podcast here.

That means understanding and embracing new technology where it is appropriate. For me, it means being on guard against the Old Fartism that clogs the arteries of so many artists and writers that I know.

Maria and I both feel the same way. We just do our work, every day we try to skip the drama and whining that chokes off so much creative work. But come and listen, I think this podcast was very special for us, and hopefully for you.

If you prefer, you can listen to the podcast live here.

Thanks for listening to us.